CIBSE (Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers) SBE0151
Additional written evidence from CIBSE (Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers)
CIBSE response to oral submission
Reasons for submitting a response
§1 – This document provides CIBSE’s response to the following comment made in a recent oral submission to the EAC, which has been raised to our attention: “We have a particular area of concern in relation to building services, so there is very little environmental product declaration data in respect of building services. CIBSE have produced a methodology called TM65, which is a complex methodology for measuring embodied carbon in building services. This needs master’s level people to do this. We need to be doing this at a lower level. The manufacturers all need to produce their EPD for A1 to A3 from the methodology, which is raw material extraction, transport to factory, and manufacturing. That data can then be incorporated into the RICS model by people who do not have a master’s level of technical education.”
- Inform their design and product selection if the EPDs are available
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1 – EPDs: recommended, to be requested from manufacturers 2 – if EPDs are not available, a “mid-level” calculation
3 – if information required to do the mid-level calculation is not available, a “basic” calculation.
§6 – The “basic” calculation only includes 5 steps and requires information on:
§7 – For many building services products, composed mainly of 1 or 2 metals, this means only requiring the product weight and what its 1 or 2 main materials are. This is fairly limited information.
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Upskilling and support to industry
§13 – CIBSE are well aware of the need for upskilling in this area, as well as other areas in the built environment; this is the reality of what is needed to achieve Net Zero, so we better understand our impact and apply the best solutions to reduce them. We believe the upskilling required to use TM65 is minimised for its purpose, and can be shared across consultants and manufacturers, depending on their resources and willingness to engage.
§14 – CIBSE have organised events and are providing training where attendees can learn not only about the TM65 methodology, but also more generally factors that affect embodied carbon in building services.
§15 –These events have included:
§16 – TM65 has received very positive feedback. Since its release early 2021, it has been downloaded 1712 times, higher than any other publication this year and with only TM40 Health and Wellbeing in Building Services, CP1 Code of Practice for Heat Networks and the Guides coming close to this number.
§17 - CIBSE have clearly stated that TM65 will evolve with industry feedback.
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§20 - These are just a few examples, we would be happy to provide more testimonials if useful.
§22 - Most recently, on 2nd November 2021 we organised a workshop for manufacturers to engage with the next steps of our work, on embodied carbon in office building services systems. It was very well attended, with 160 attendees, and received very positive feedback on the method and our follow-up work (e.g. “"great session", "very informative"), with requests for more regional sessions.
§23 - We are very supportive of the work of the EAC and would be very happy to provide more information to the EAC if useful, and to engage with the organisation or individual who raised their concerns with the EAC, should they wish to contact us.
§24 - We understand this response may be made public (e.g. on the EAC inquiry website), and do not object to it.
Dr Julie Godefroy, CIBSE Head of Sustainability
November 2021
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APPENDIX – Comparison of input requirements: EPD, TM65 “mid-level” and TM65 “basic” calculations
Table 4.1 Comparison of the life cycle stage modules needing to be calculated and the type of information required per life cycle stage module for the two calculation methods and an EPD
Preliminary information ‘Basic’ calculation ‘Mid-level’ calculation BS EN 15804+ A2
compliant EPD*
Capacity of equipment /size | Mandatory | Mandatory | Mandatory |
Product service life (years) | Mandatory | Mandatory | Optional |
Refrigerant used, GWP, charge (kg) | Mandatory | Mandatory | Mandatory |
Stage Module ‘Basic’ calculation ‘Mid-level’ calculation BS EN 15804+ A2 compliant EPD*
A | A1 (material extraction) | Mandatory | Mandatory | Mandatory |
A2 (transport to factory) |
Scale-up factor | Mandatory | Mandatory | |
A3 (manufacturing) | Mandatory | Mandatory | ||
A4 (transport to site) | Mandatory | Optional | ||
A5 (installation) | — | — | Optional | |
B |
B1 (use) | Mandatory for refrigerant based system | Mandatory for refrigerant based system |
Optional |
B2 (maintenance) | Scale-up factor | Optional | Optional | |
B3 (repair) | Mandatory | Mandatory | Optional | |
B4 (replacement) | — | — | Optional | |
B5 (refurbishment) | — | — | Optional | |
B6 (operational energy) | — | — | Optional | |
B7 (operational water) | — | — | Optional | |
C |
C1 (deconstruction) | Mandatory for refrigerant based system | Mandatory for refrigerant based system |
Mandatory |
C2 (transport) |
Scale-up factor |
Mandatory | ||
C3 (waste processing) | ||||
C4 (disposal) | Mandatory | |||
D | D (reuse, recover, recycle) | — | — |
* Compliant with BS EN 15804:2012+ A2:2019, therefore modules C and D are mandatory whereas they are optional for BS EN 15804:2012+ A1:2013
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